First, I'm guessing (since I'm not God or Obama) but I don't think Jesus would even vote, let alone pick a candidate. Jesus was about our salvation and our relationship with God, independent of what political party was in power.
Second, remember who Jesus had the most problems with? The religious types. Pharisees, I believe. Most of them upset that Jesus wouldn't save them from the tyranny of the Romans.
So I'm thinking that Jesus probably wouldn't file a ballot in this election.
None the less, I find it hilarious that democrats are trying to seize on the religious right quoting the only Bible scripture they seem to know, Matthew 25:40.
"The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'
No where in this passage does this imply that the government implement a program for each of us to take care of his brother. In fact, most of the Bible is intended to be a guide book for our personal relationship with God, not a road map for government guidance.
In addition, using democrat logic, where's the separation of church and state so many democrats live and die on?
I think religion is important that it helps identify the moral framework candidates live and govern by. But I'm kind of tired of campaigns trying to manipulate our individual religious experience for their gain. So stop it.
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Once again, your show ignorance by claiming you know what Jesus was about. Not only was he here to guide the world to a better relationship with GOD, but, more importantly, to guide us in our relationships with each other. And the Bible is filled with examples of how we are to treat one another in order to be in line with God. You are so uneducated. But, God bless the internet, where you can feel important by spewing misinformation.
Actually you kind of missed the whole point of the New testament.
It's not works but faith.
Granted how we treat others is evidence of faith. There's no instruction in the Bible on how governments should operate.
awa611,
Your premise is that liberalism helps people and that a vote against liberalism is a vote against a brother's well being is a false premise.
Wherever the the socialist philosphy dominates, you see poverty and the destruction of the human spirit.
The bible's passage reads:
"..whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me."
The socialist passage would read:
"...whatever someone else did for one of the least of someone else's brothers, someone else will do it for me."
Please think a little bigger before you try to interpret Jesus' message 2000 years ago to imply that in the year 2008 he wanted a large, bloated, uncaring, faceless, beaurocracy promising, and failing, to deliver a better life for the poorest among us.
I think his message was intended to be helping those closest to one's self, not passing laws to force people to pretend to care. Jesus would have seen socialism for what it is: another path to power for the few.
Wow,did i really say all that? Did you get that by using some decoding program to see what I really meant? That's the whole problem. Your kind of people wanna decide what the rest of us really mean when we say something. You just argue for the sake of argument, don't you! It's pretty clear that you're the one missing the point of Christ's teachings. He didn't only speak about faith, but about God's laws and doing God's work. And that we should not only be reconciled with God but with man, also. We don't run around committing sin against imaginary beings. We sin against one another (which is a sin against God). And when we do God's will it's not just in our heads, but actions towards one another.
Again, read the WHOLE Bible, not just the few lines that help you plead your case. There are MANY passages in the Bible regarding how governments should operate. But since you've only read a few parts of the Bible you probably missed those. And spare me the argument about the teachings of the New Testament. Many of Christ's teachings were based on teachings of the Old Testament.
I bet I could find a liberal to donate a copy of Hooked on Phonics to help you learn to read.
Your original message:
"...And the Bible is filled with examples of how we are to treat one another in order to be in line with God. You are so uneducated...."
came across a bit preachy. But apparently with you the preaching is only allowed to be from you to the rest of us. I agree with you on your point Jesus was to "guide us in our relationships with each other". I'm not trying to debate that point. I'm debating on how this concept relates to politics.
I assumed you were making a left oriented political point. If that was not the case, my apologies.
My interest in this topic has nothing to do with the correct interpretation of Jesus. 99% of the people in this land (including you and me) believe Jesus' example is one of compassion for fellow man.
Where we might diverge is on how his message can be misinterpreted to imply that governments world wide should move LEFT because that's what Jesus would want.
That movement would be based on a false premise that left=compassion. I would like to see that premise exposed for it's falsehood, that in fact left is contrary to compassion.
I am not here to debate Christ's purpose. I agree with your assessment on his teachings. So if your point is only theological in nature, and not political, I have no disagreement. I did not intend to read more into your comment than was intended. But to be fair to all, this is a political blog, not a religious one.
You just totally made my point!!! The original blog brought God and Jesus into this political discussion in the first place, not me. My first intent was to point out how ridiculous the statements regarding God and Jesus in relationship to government were. I didn't make those statements, Gordon did. Let me just that, by no means am I a religious fanatic or even a scholar. I am not preaching to anyone. However, I've had the fortune to be educated well in Christianity and cannot stand it when people want to use tiny clips of the Bible and misinformation to support their beliefs. And that is exactly what the original blog is filled with. People need to stop bringing religion into politics if they don't have a clue what they're talking about. Well, even if they do know what they're talking about. If someone wants to rant and rave about their opinion then show us some facts.
"Please think a little bigger before you try to interpret Jesus' message 2000 years ago..."
There's no "trying" to interpret Jesus' message. It really was very simple and it really isn't all that religious. It's universal. And it wasn't just His message. All of the other religious and human icons had the same message - do the right thing towards one another.
And can you really disagree that if our political leaders did the right thing, this country wouldn't be so screwed up?
I certainly agree with you that His message would be -IS- misinterpreted constantly. And that's exactly what I was pointing out.
Please, do not assume I mean something other than what is plainly written.
And, if this is a political blog, then let's keep it that way. THAT was my point.
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